tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post3536619289032761371..comments2024-03-22T10:18:25.233+01:00Comments on ParisDailyPhoto: Demonstration for better housingEric@ParisDailyPhotohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07945292068472619659noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-51468015280774328152008-05-06T21:40:00.000+02:002008-05-06T21:40:00.000+02:00Lucio - You crack me up :)Oh, for a populace that ...Lucio - You crack me up :)<BR/><BR/>Oh, for a populace that would only listen to well-reasoned, well-presented argument. Ah well.M.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09205619221345704689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-34799889732201512412008-05-06T02:25:00.000+02:002008-05-06T02:25:00.000+02:00Hey Katie. Sounds like fun. Count me in!Hey Katie. Sounds like fun. Count me in!buzzgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10784316701821693933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-27181466247794140552008-05-06T01:54:00.000+02:002008-05-06T01:54:00.000+02:00Guille: There are those who think black isn't a co...Guille: There are those who think black isn't a colour. People with a sense of humour, however, know it to be the brightest colour of all.<BR/><BR/>m.k.: Yes, sadly, I think some people ARE that shallow. On the other hand, I agree that the "visibility" of a demonstration can often hinge on its theatricality. We can't assume, though, that everyone who takes takes a leaflet from vegan dressed as a pork chop, and protesting against cruelty to farm animals, is going to read it - or, indeed, not use it as a piece of scrap paper on which to write their shopping list for the butcher.Volmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17752019421419951656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-56934710477044860462008-05-06T01:01:00.000+02:002008-05-06T01:01:00.000+02:00ok Guille you had me convinced, you ARE studying h...ok Guille you had me convinced, you ARE studying hard.<BR/><BR/>Here´s my diplomat side girls: the PDP gang IS made of the best people in the world. Anyone disagrees? Didn´t think so!Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08145947793541874607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-18475035744290939582008-05-06T00:59:00.000+02:002008-05-06T00:59:00.000+02:00>> Angela, they surely expected to be kicked out, ...>> Angela, they surely expected to be kicked out, precisely, because like Guille pointed out, they wanted to attract attention.<BR/><BR/>I'll come back to this - interesting - debate tomorrow, but now it's too late, I have to go to bed.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13796507758758766120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-39052924661636471422008-05-05T23:49:00.000+02:002008-05-05T23:49:00.000+02:00Saw a housing demonstration last time I was in Par...Saw a housing demonstration last time I was in Paris, and there actually were more police than demonstrators ( I counted). It's gratifying that these gatherings are peaceful -- but do they get results?<BR/>We should do this in New York, where housing is so ridiculously expensive. They keep building -- but only high-priced "luxury" coops and condos. Where are the apartments for us middle-class working folks, not to mention the people who can barely afford a place to live (or can't at all)?Alexahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03620873522996260383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-31635861426172645242008-05-05T22:55:00.000+02:002008-05-05T22:55:00.000+02:00By the way Michael, i've answered you over at mine...By the way Michael, i've answered you over at mine and all i can say here is ...ew.Cheltenhamdailyphotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00518073757785956012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-50565306370234299012008-05-05T21:13:00.000+02:002008-05-05T21:13:00.000+02:00Michael yes i do! lol i see no evidence of nastine...Michael yes i do! lol i see no evidence of nastiness or violence in those people.<BR/><BR/>lol Lois! I tell you if i get out of that car at that point, it'll be worth a picture!Cheltenhamdailyphotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00518073757785956012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-21217835762136113522008-05-05T21:01:00.000+02:002008-05-05T21:01:00.000+02:00Michael, Yes, plenty of work -- forever. Or at le...Michael, Yes, plenty of work -- forever. Or at least until the day, that people stop creating and inventing; and until the day, that people stop trying to steal other peoples' ideas. I cannot imagine either one of those things happening -- it's just human nature to create and unfortunately, to steal.<BR/><BR/>Lynn, You are so crazy funny! "I'll be inside my car." >^..^<Lois Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15147226104566786852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-78547929271045374392008-05-05T20:52:00.000+02:002008-05-05T20:52:00.000+02:00Don't think about the majority, there is not fight...Don't think about the majority, there is not fights or quarrels on PDP! Each point of view is welcome.<BR/><BR/>I don't think that they did this sit-in to become famous. There is often demonstration for homeless people, at least 3 or 4 last year. And two years ago, the Don Quichotte association put hundreds of tents on the Canal Saint Martin enbankments to protest. It's never violent, it's never agressive, it's always to help people who need it and to attract the politicians' attention. If it's the best way they found to be heard, it's fine to me.guillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11367207273165799146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-38667354491642256522008-05-05T20:14:00.000+02:002008-05-05T20:14:00.000+02:00Sorry for my stupid question. Should have used my ...Sorry for my stupid question. Should have used my dictionary.<BR/><BR/>Lucio - you bring up an interesting point of criticism. I heard an interview on public radio just the other day. The guest was the V.P. of PETA (people for the ethical treatment of animals). The man said he favored "colorful" demonstrations. He had conducted both types, and crowds respond well to, and listen to, colorful demonstrations. He described one in which he and his friends sat, in their underwear, on a bed in the middle of Boston, handing out fliers. They were criticized for demeaning their own cause. So, later he conducted another "demonstration" in the same location, but simply with handing out fliers to the public more seriously, and holding signs showing abused animals. People avoided them, wouldn't take the fliers. So, since the goal is to get the public to listen to you, and not tune you out, perhaps he's right. I find the costumes silly, myself. But perhaps people are just shallow enough that they need the silliness, to help them swallow the message.M.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09205619221345704689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-80540950139509447162008-05-05T20:09:00.000+02:002008-05-05T20:09:00.000+02:00Oh no Lynn, you don't really believe that do you? ...Oh no Lynn, you don't really believe that do you? Yes Angela, you should comment more often!Michael Salonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10294866381143537391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-11688342084490111162008-05-05T20:06:00.000+02:002008-05-05T20:06:00.000+02:00Angela, your viewpoint is interesting. You should...Angela, your viewpoint is interesting. You should comment more often. However the idea that they made a mess in the building previously used as a school (government property) is an assumption. We don't know about that for sure and i'm willing to see the best in them, that they wanted to make a symbolic point in order to get press coverage of the plight of the homeless, rather than a personal claim to fame. None of them seems to be posing for the cameras.Cheltenhamdailyphotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00518073757785956012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-19687868783639898412008-05-05T19:48:00.000+02:002008-05-05T19:48:00.000+02:00Dear Guille,Thank you for being nice with your res...Dear Guille,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for being nice with your response. Even if the building is empty I am sure that these people did make a mess of things and intruded on somebody else's property. For me that is just as bad as the housing problem. I guess it is just different living in a socialist country. Everybody seems to want the government to solve their problems. Thank you again for being nice to me. I am sure that I am not the majority here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-68522401327677199442008-05-05T19:40:00.000+02:002008-05-05T19:40:00.000+02:00Angela,These people expected that the police put t...Angela,<BR/>These people expected that the police put them outside. It was the idea to attract viewers and reactions I guess.<BR/>And I assume that the flat into which they entered was empty. I only assume. They're not violent people. The housing is such a problem in Paris, I understand the claim (and as a student I'm totally concerned actually...).guillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11367207273165799146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-73820976650615139972008-05-05T19:28:00.000+02:002008-05-05T19:28:00.000+02:00Dear Eric,I read your blog often but do not commen...Dear Eric,<BR/><BR/>I read your blog often but do not comment. This photo, however, forces me to put in my two cents worth.<BR/><BR/>How can people take over a building which does not belong to them and expect that the police do not kick them out just because they think there isn't enough housing in Paris (or wherever)? And I presume, knowing the French, that they just stand by and do nothing. Tell these kids to go fight to change the laws. I assume they wouldn't be very happy if someone showed up in their apartment and squatted.<BR/><BR/>I do love the photo and video though. I imagine that this is their real aim anyway. To be famous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-4002495545676857442008-05-05T19:22:00.000+02:002008-05-05T19:22:00.000+02:00Oh goodness Mme what have i let myself in for? lol...Oh goodness Mme what have i let myself in for? lol. Do you mean i may have to get within 20 feet of a cat? Ok then. I'll be inside my car.Cheltenhamdailyphotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00518073757785956012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-77137695629424551522008-05-05T19:21:00.000+02:002008-05-05T19:21:00.000+02:00Oh yeah...all the web 2.0 stuff Michael. I totall...Oh yeah...all the web 2.0 stuff Michael. I totally agree. I totally get it.Cheltenhamdailyphotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00518073757785956012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-39523018303953358932008-05-05T19:20:00.000+02:002008-05-05T19:20:00.000+02:00Back from school (See, Monica).Btw, I thought I wa...Back from school (See, Monica).<BR/>Btw, I thought I was the best!You told me so!<BR/><BR/>The photo reminds me of the Nanterre manifestations, but the policemen were not so nice!! This sit-in seems to be very quiet. The video is great, you played the paparazzi Eric,there are so many pictures! ;)<BR/><BR/>What do you mean by 'we will even try to do better than photos'?!I think I'm afraid...videos? :S<BR/><BR/>Lucio, I love the 'humour noir'(black humor?). Yours is so fun.<BR/><BR/>Oh, Lynn, I have 3 cats. Yes, 3. He he.guillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11367207273165799146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-70945996836021954572008-05-05T19:16:00.000+02:002008-05-05T19:16:00.000+02:00Eric, right in the middle of all the action once m...Eric, right in the middle of all the action once more. These photos are very exciting and I just love the video.<BR/>And there is so much to discover (like discerning eyes...LOL).<BR/><BR/>Happy Birthday to you PHX !!!<BR/><BR/>In general I'm not at all a jealous person, but I AM jealous of all of you going to the PDP picnic on wednesday.<BR/>Promise to take photos, and what ever more,and Eric please make one of your famous slideshows. That would be great fun for us poor people who can't attend.Bettinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654317066587245401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-41046618984983099702008-05-05T18:50:00.000+02:002008-05-05T18:50:00.000+02:00Lois, that is very interesting what you do. With a...Lois, that is very interesting what you do. With all of the Web 2.0 stuff, it is something we are looking at intensely where I work. For example, if someone says something on Facebook that can be seen by a competitor, it gets quite tricky. Sounds like you should have lots of work for a while!Michael Salonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10294866381143537391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-86703887767427103762008-05-05T18:26:00.001+02:002008-05-05T18:26:00.001+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Alexandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10804085822741729392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-14819084602306951572008-05-05T18:26:00.000+02:002008-05-05T18:26:00.000+02:00Thanks, Lois! and to you as well! Your job sounds ...Thanks, Lois! and to you as well! Your job sounds far more interesting than what I [probably] will be doing over the summer. But oh well. One needs the money ...Alexandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10804085822741729392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-89379282329852894892008-05-05T18:24:00.000+02:002008-05-05T18:24:00.000+02:00I just want to say thank you for this blog. I rece...I just want to say thank you for this blog. I recently left Paris behind to go back home (US) and I miss it everyday, but seeing your photos helps and just keeps the love for France and Paris going...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-82060156135361469062008-05-05T17:59:00.000+02:002008-05-05T17:59:00.000+02:00Lynn, Yes, I did notice ALL the police men in unif...Lynn, Yes, I did notice ALL the police men in uniform -- and the ones wearing the blue helmets. I thought it was over-kill. The police sometimes appear to out number the crowd. (Eric said that once.) I thought the woman you pointed out (and the others looking in that direction) were looking at the Elvis guy on the balcony. It looks like he was addressing the crowd. >^..^<<BR/><BR/>Rose, Thank you. I love hosting parties. I've have had some where literally thousands showed up to my loft. But that was when I was in my 20's -- I have calmed down since then.<BR/><BR/>Alexandra, I am an artist specializing in Intellectual Property and Trade Secrets. My jobs these past two years have been contract jobs. When I was in court a couple weeks ago an attorney seemed irritated that I was doing contract work and not working for a firm. I told him that I was just going with the flow. It's the global economy and the field of work that I do. I prosecute and litigate IP domestic and foreign. So, if you hear of anything let me know. (You are probably thinking, what is she talking about -- I was at a networking party given by the French Chamber of Commerce here in San Francisco. I was talking to a doctor from Germany who specializes in ChemBio IP. He told me that he was contracting too and he emailed me his resume. He said, let me know if you hear of anything.) Happy job search Alexandra!<BR/><BR/>Happy Birthday dear Phx Lynn. I was going to send you an e-card -- I couldn't find you email address.Lois Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15147226104566786852noreply@blogger.com