tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post7763293402746461558..comments2024-03-22T10:18:25.233+01:00Comments on ParisDailyPhoto: Controversy over Terrace heatersEric@ParisDailyPhotohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07945292068472619659noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-46066684874108934862008-12-05T23:47:00.000+01:002008-12-05T23:47:00.000+01:00By the way, we have these all over the U.S., too, ...By the way, we have these all over the U.S., too, but I've never heard of a debate over them. Perhaps I should start one... :) Join the rest of the world in their effort to make the world greener...Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15100023167123234673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-80127712127490865962008-12-05T23:46:00.000+01:002008-12-05T23:46:00.000+01:00I'm with the greenies on this. Not just because I...I'm with the greenies on this. Not just because I hate trying to enjoy life while walking through a cloud of cigarette smoke just because some idiots want to kill themselves and make themselves incredibly unattractive at an early age, thereby doing the same to everyone around them, but because cigarette smoke is also bad for the environment. :) I'm pretty sure it's possible to go to a cafe and enjoy your time there for an hour or two without having to have a smoke.Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15100023167123234673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-22045338078075726582008-11-30T20:12:00.000+01:002008-11-30T20:12:00.000+01:00Where is this cafe? I swear I was in it or one jus...Where is this cafe? I swear I was in it or one just like it in Paris.Maggie P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06567905869303758318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-82285711684595705542008-11-20T10:44:00.000+01:002008-11-20T10:44:00.000+01:00Very nice picture.This is not a French debate thou...Very nice picture.<BR/><BR/>This is not a French debate though, but <A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jan/30/eu.greenpolitics" REL="nofollow">a European one</A>.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06453626318828119830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-57727650228227578422008-11-19T03:51:00.000+01:002008-11-19T03:51:00.000+01:00Hands off the heaters! I love them - smokers get ...Hands off the heaters! I love them - smokers get a rough deal - give us a break. Please?MmeBenauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14365277537757094040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-68233244133346278162008-11-18T20:15:00.000+01:002008-11-18T20:15:00.000+01:00Sue, we shall never know which paths we would have...Sue, we shall never know which paths we would have chosen... :)Cheltenhamdailyphotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00518073757785956012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-23320324738048845802008-11-17T23:55:00.000+01:002008-11-17T23:55:00.000+01:00Vive the outdoor heaters! We have the outdoor mis...Vive the outdoor heaters! We have the outdoor misters in the summer time that spray mists of cool water on people sitting outside. It probably never gets that hot in Paris!Pont Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16027307249127770309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-79304642742281468672008-11-17T22:45:00.000+01:002008-11-17T22:45:00.000+01:00oh yes I wasn't suggesting you'd photoshopped it a...oh yes I wasn't suggesting you'd photoshopped it at all :) YOU are gold, Eric, after all.Cheltenhamdailyphotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00518073757785956012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-89654732074626005102008-11-17T21:35:00.000+01:002008-11-17T21:35:00.000+01:00Eric - Gorgeous photo. Beautiful color and light....Eric - Gorgeous photo. Beautiful color and light. Very romantic. I had never thought of the environmental aspect of the outdoor heaters. Surprised it hasn't occurred to our green Mayor Newsome (San Francisco). If it does, they'll go the way of plastic bags. Sigh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-40716114807004436792008-11-17T20:52:00.000+01:002008-11-17T20:52:00.000+01:00I can totally understand this debate! My husband ...I can totally understand this debate! My husband drives around with the air conditioning on in the car but he also has the sunroof open. Drives me crazy!Valeriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06831647179001277757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-7309334069423018912008-11-17T20:44:00.000+01:002008-11-17T20:44:00.000+01:00Eric, It gets dark here in San Francisco at around...Eric, It gets dark here in San Francisco at around 5:30 too. So you are saying, you took the last three photo shoots at around 5:30 pm? No, never mind, you don't have to answer that :-)hahahaha<BR/><BR/>Guille, "But that's why I love my country: people are ready to fight for everything!" You are so funny. LOOOLLLLois Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15147226104566786852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-8562517712627279612008-11-17T20:02:00.000+01:002008-11-17T20:02:00.000+01:00We had a debate about cigarettes the last time we ...We had a debate about cigarettes the last time we met @ les Deux Magots for the PDP gathering. Ashtrays are forbidden, heaters are forbidden, to throw your cigarette butt on the ground is forbidden too...<BR/>French legislation, French rules, French useless debates...But that's why I love my country: people are ready to fight for everything!<BR/><BR/>Eric, great golden picture, warm atmosphere (because of the heaters!), I really like it. You should zazzle it!<BR/>BTW,"Pain Français Viennois"... I find it quite funny. :)guillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11367207273165799146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-17012882103386015392008-11-17T19:54:00.000+01:002008-11-17T19:54:00.000+01:00When are people going to figure out that 'global w...When are people going to figure out that 'global warming' is just the latest multi-million dollar scam?Starmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12386841450183061541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-37031191717371886232008-11-17T19:15:00.000+01:002008-11-17T19:15:00.000+01:00> Lynn. "Photo's pure gold though! :)&...> Lynn. "Photo's pure gold though! :)" It's natural actually (due top the street lamps)<BR/><BR/>> Sue. "I AM a smoker, so perhaps that makes me a little biased...." It does!!<BR/><BR/>> PHX-CDG. "Chez Julian was next to that bridge. Luigi still ownes the premises and collects the rent from the Costes brothers, who are known for their chic restaurants. Wherever you sit, there is a great view." Wow, you know a lot about these people...<BR/><BR/>> Soosha. "I don't really think terrace heaters are necessary when the average cigarette only lasts 5-7 minutes. " True but they're not only for smokers, but also for people who just wish to have dinner outside even if it's chilly.<BR/><BR/>>Alexa "Yikes! I'm going to try this one one more time: Those last two from lilascott are really me -- Alexa (if anyone even cares at this point, which I seriously doubt)." LOOOOOOL!<BR/><BR/>> Christie. "And is that a new profile picture??" Yes, but by mistake...<BR/><BR/>> Barbscoot. "Regardless of where you sit on this issue, I have to say: I just love this website. Thanks yet again, Eric". Thank YOU!<BR/><BR/>> Tomate. "Well, this is different. This is going after small businesses trying to make a living by making their customers more comfortable." Actually you're right. The whole purpose of these heaters is to extend the space for customers...<BR/><BR/>> Lois. "On another subject, Eric, this photo makes three (3) night photos in a row. You night owl, you. ;-)" Well not really, Lois, it's just that at this time of the year it gets dark around 5:30 here!Eric Teninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05368181213992718196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-40352332724817475422008-11-17T18:38:00.000+01:002008-11-17T18:38:00.000+01:00Cafe Bastille in San Francisco has outside heaters...Cafe Bastille in San Francisco has outside heaters. And, that is where the smokers hang out. I hang outside with them; although I do not smoke. They are my friends smoking or not.<BR/><BR/>On another subject, Eric, this photo makes three (3) night photos in a row. You night owl, you. ;-)Lois Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15147226104566786852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-86547738417986888522008-11-17T18:34:00.000+01:002008-11-17T18:34:00.000+01:00These heaters are all over L.A., but I've never gi...These heaters are all over L.A., but I've never given them a thought in terms of pollution and energy, which just shows how wasteful we are here. Leaving aside the issue of the fuel being a pollutant, it doesn't seem to make much sense to legislate how people can use the energy they pay for. We can disapprove, certainly, and we can choose not to participate--for instance by not sitting under a heat lamp. But by this logic of banning, we would have to ban a lot more than heat lamps. In fact, there would be no end to it. The worst offenders in Southern Cal? Still the Apple stores that blow air conditioners while leaving their mammoth doors wide open.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-57874972501550588342008-11-17T18:23:00.000+01:002008-11-17T18:23:00.000+01:00"Would it make sense to heat your house and leave ...<I>"Would it make sense to heat your house and leave the windows open?"</I> <BR/><BR/>Well, this is different. This is going after small businesses trying to make a living by making their customers more comfortable. Remember, it's freezing in Paris a good part of the year, so they should be able to offer heat if they feel like paying for it.Tomate Farciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12102741033638005250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-6199308480141878072008-11-17T18:21:00.000+01:002008-11-17T18:21:00.000+01:00Beautiful photo, Eric!I used to love dining outsid...Beautiful photo, Eric!<BR/><BR/>I used to love dining outside in the fresh air, but now that there is so much smoke on the terrace, I find myself going inside for fresh air!♥ E.T. Suzy ♥https://www.blogger.com/profile/04573215118946859329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-71056185139289755412008-11-17T17:41:00.000+01:002008-11-17T17:41:00.000+01:00We have the same debate going on. On a wider schem...We have the same debate going on. On a wider schem of things it does seem silly to me.Inekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09370294740348680716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-59016091801815469972008-11-17T17:01:00.000+01:002008-11-17T17:01:00.000+01:00The fuel that's used in them is the problem. I won...The fuel that's used in them is the problem. I wonder if there's a different fuel that wouldn't pollute so much? Folks are putting their heads together to come up with so many great solutions to pollution problems, I'll bet there's a great alternative here.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-63535690234000335682008-11-17T16:11:00.000+01:002008-11-17T16:11:00.000+01:00Nice photo ... and I like seeing you in a tie!Nice photo ... and I like seeing you in a tie!Laurie Brandriet Kellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00809388954042184189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-751948051444640922008-11-17T13:48:00.000+01:002008-11-17T13:48:00.000+01:00I first saw these outdoor heaters when I was in De...I first saw these outdoor heaters when I was in Denmark some years ago. Since then I've seen them here in a few places. <BR/><BR/> I like them and hope they are not banned in Paris.. I look forward to sitting outside a cafe while there and hopefully will not freeze while doing it.<BR/><BR/>Photo has a lovely golden glow.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06731374859268583008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-27680638621925774852008-11-17T11:00:00.000+01:002008-11-17T11:00:00.000+01:00Wow - big question...I haven't answered it yet.Jus...Wow - big question...<BR/>I haven't answered it yet.<BR/>Just two things in mind:<BR/>- that makes a difference i appreciate<BR/>- outside heaters and inside ones are not the same thing : at home people are able to close themselves the windows, aren't they? <BR/>I'll try to think more about this! Nice colors anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-32452011932226648302008-11-17T10:48:00.000+01:002008-11-17T10:48:00.000+01:00I think patio/terrace heaters are stupid because t...I think patio/terrace heaters are stupid because they are so high up - heat rises so how anyone feels the benefit from them, I don't know. However, passing a law to ban them is, I believe, going too far.Shutterspyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07933936629685995574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-48339720877155684522008-11-17T09:21:00.000+01:002008-11-17T09:21:00.000+01:00Thanks Carrie, Alexa and coltrane_lives. I used to...Thanks Carrie, Alexa and coltrane_lives. I used to think GF was Golden Finger, like fast draw on the mouse!<BR/><BR/>If Paris had our new law, the heater issue would probably be moot. Starting January 2009, Oregon's original 2002 smoke-free workplace law has been strengthened to state that no person may smoke within 10 feet of entrances, exits, windows that open, or ventilation intakes of public places or places of employment.Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15269682668189456166noreply@blogger.com