tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post8120944757102212046..comments2024-03-04T11:43:18.337+01:00Comments on ParisDailyPhoto: More towers in Paris?Eric@ParisDailyPhotohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07945292068472619659noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-1281903844351186362008-02-07T17:31:00.000+01:002008-02-07T17:31:00.000+01:00Tiens tiens le chinatown :)Tiens tiens le chinatown :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-64411342533072518692008-02-07T16:04:00.000+01:002008-02-07T16:04:00.000+01:00The thing I love the most about Paris is her stunn...The thing I love the most about Paris is her stunning symmetry. Why puncture the city with towers? Not to mention the last thing Paris needs are HLM's au centre-ville. Hopefully monsieur le maire will come to his senses, there is still plenty of room on the periphique. The city should go outwards as it always has, not upwards....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-68876981237695382662008-02-07T11:59:00.000+01:002008-02-07T11:59:00.000+01:00I would have thought any new development would be ...I would have thought any new development would be built on the outskirts of the Peripherique? There are plenty high buildings to be found there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-53618519269710876232008-02-06T00:39:00.000+01:002008-02-06T00:39:00.000+01:00Jeff. "This question always makes me smile. It is ...Jeff. "This question always makes me smile. It is the same question people face in rural areas on the edges of cities. "Don't build anything new, don't change anything."<BR/>Soooo true. Same with social housing: "ONE" should definitely build social housing"... but not next to my door!!<BR/><BR/>Lynn "perhaps the richer outside, near les espaces verts, and the poorer cramped in the city? Who knows."<BR/>Interesting, because for a while, in some countries that is what happened: richer people would move to the rich suburbs. I don't think it's true anymore.<BR/><BR/>Suzy. LOOOOOOOOOOL<BR/><BR/>Pont Girl. "I was totally turned off by la Tour ". You're right, it's ugly, but one can build superb towers, I'm sure.<BR/><BR/>Buzz Girl. "Suzy, not all French erections are so grand. I'm just saying..." From what I remember, you have more expertise on Scottish architecture than French one, don't you... ;)<BR/><BR/>Thib "New towers could be nice, provided architects and promoters make an effort!" I agree with that.<BR/><BR/>Lili "I know visitors like Paris as it is (so do I), but we can't just perform for tourists inside a museum-town, we need to leed a real life ;o))) with local shops, housing, work and entertainment. I agree with that too ;)<BR/><BR/>"The Chinese will buy them and many will move in." (OldmanLincoln) Thib, isn't this ironic?!<BR/><BR/>PHX-CDG. in fact it's now forbidden to build buildings that are taller than 37 meters, period. But precisely, the mayor wants to change the law. And no, new towers would certainly not be built in the center of Paris.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13796507758758766120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-6605110325866078472008-02-06T00:34:00.000+01:002008-02-06T00:34:00.000+01:00And Michael often comes to Brazil and doesn't visi...And Michael often comes to Brazil and doesn't visit either. Double Pfft !!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>I love one of the comments from a french about the video in the link Eric provided:<BR/>"Et si c’est pour changer la pierre en verre et nous faire des formes toutes biscornues, eh bien bravo messieurs les architectes, retournez donc à vos Legos !Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08145947793541874607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-12422361975924868472008-02-06T00:28:00.000+01:002008-02-06T00:28:00.000+01:00Please do find it, Lynn! They are such bad boys -...Please do find it, Lynn! They are such bad boys - quelle rudeness ;)Pont Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16027307249127770309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-5475877911094084862008-02-06T00:18:00.000+01:002008-02-06T00:18:00.000+01:00Pont Girl i can't find the pink pic! It's on my o...Pont Girl i can't find the pink pic! It's on my other laptop which is in repair and the original is somewhere in the loft! Ohhhh but i shall try to get it at some point lol!<BR/><BR/>Oh yeah and Michael came to the UK and didn't visit. Pfft!Cheltenhamdailyphotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00518073757785956012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-50617842699753002992008-02-05T23:00:00.000+01:002008-02-05T23:00:00.000+01:00Jeff, you come to LA and you don't visit??? Pfft!...Jeff, you come to LA and you don't visit??? Pfft! ;)Pont Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16027307249127770309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-62286553522929894162008-02-05T19:05:00.000+01:002008-02-05T19:05:00.000+01:00Great conversation in here!More than a few years b...Great conversation in here!<BR/><BR/>More than a few years back San Jose built a new 20+ story building just outside of the regular stack of high rises, so it sticks out like a sore thumb when viewed from a distance. We still haven't found a use for it. <BR/><BR/>I think jen has the answer: build the new ones to look like the old ones. Maybe toss in a few bullet holes for effect. Ha!<BR/><BR/>Jeff, yes, I would give three big EIFFEL TOWERs for each Eiffel Tower built in Paris. It's only fair.♥ E.T. Suzy ♥https://www.blogger.com/profile/04573215118946859329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-82357188266739783302008-02-05T18:09:00.000+01:002008-02-05T18:09:00.000+01:00I panicked. I was picturing high rises on Ile de L...I panicked. I was picturing high rises on Ile de La Cite. Of course no one's going to put skyscrapers in the center of the city. No one wants to kill the tourist trade.<BR/><BR/>Jeff, you're right. There's a new project to bring people and business back to downtown L.A. For years there hasn't even been a grocery store there. Our mayor has advocated a "revitalization" of downtown, and a grocery store was the first step. People are excited and beginning to move back to the area.<BR/><BR/>I lived in Chicago for ten years and loved it. I didn't live downtown, but many people do. High rise living in the downtown area of Chicago is expensive. It's not for poor people. It's chic. If those buildings are done right, it can be a good solution.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-66813118209535533562008-02-05T17:08:00.000+01:002008-02-05T17:08:00.000+01:00This is a fabulous discussion. I'll throw on some ...This is a fabulous discussion. I'll throw on some more fuel. If high-rise living is so bad, why do so many people love living in New York? Because they prefer that, with its good and bad things, over other choices. (The poor who were born there have not choice, of course, like all in poverty.) Personally, I would be very unhappy living in a rural location: I would go crazywith boredom. (Ok, ok, more crazy.) But others love living in rural areas and hate the city.<BR/><BR/>It is a signature of the suburb that the neighborhoods are routine and boring, but the homes themselves (inside) are very nice. That is, personal space has become the priority over public space (the street dominated by large garage doors and no sidewalks). It is the same with urban towers: stark and cold on the outside but, as somebody said above, very nice inside with impressive views.<BR/><BR/>And, Petrea, I'm sorry, but downtown L.A. has some great places and many people living there. I had a gas there two weeks ago. It was bad, I'm told, but it's getting better.<BR/><BR/>Many people are right about the historic district. You can save what's valued without prohibiting anything new. You can build new without destroying the old that you care about. It's not either/or. Do both!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-9000307293906582242008-02-05T16:41:00.000+01:002008-02-05T16:41:00.000+01:00I think I would even prefer a nice apt in a tower ...I think I would even prefer a nice apt in a tower than a comfortable house located 35 km outside Paris... well... I mean probably in the towers our mayor is going to order to respectable and trendy architects, not those on the photo - sorry Eric it is absolutely not against your photo :) <BR/><BR/>And I trust them to never build towers in the historic part of Paris. For sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-20643681961798441772008-02-05T16:38:00.000+01:002008-02-05T16:38:00.000+01:00Very clever of you Eric, you posted this photo in ...Very clever of you Eric, you posted this photo in Black & White, which clearly gives it a bit of a... sad, depressing look. There's not much left to sympathize with it then.Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08145947793541874607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-28627994535590803702008-02-05T16:30:00.000+01:002008-02-05T16:30:00.000+01:00I thought that history had shown (particularly in ...I thought that history had shown (particularly in UK) that social housing in tower blocks tends to produce awful living conditions for the residents. If Paris is to expand they ought to avoid the mistakes of other cities and build lo-rise units or houses and try and create some semblance of community.<BR/><BR/>I read somewhere that the authorities were so appalled after the Montparnasse Tower was built that they vowed 'never again'. Great view from up there though!rich.painter21https://www.blogger.com/profile/05382443704044430696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-67385114584195044782008-02-05T16:27:00.000+01:002008-02-05T16:27:00.000+01:00Why not build the "new" ones based on oldre archit...Why not build the "new" ones based on oldre architecture?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14606670867237509659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-12356552396286994772008-02-05T16:10:00.000+01:002008-02-05T16:10:00.000+01:00Please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think...Please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think huge towers are allowed to be built within historic Paris. You can find them in La Defense, and where the new library was built across the river (Bercy?) etc.<BR/>This picture, with its generic concrete structures, looks like ANY big city in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-49977502769798312462008-02-05T15:45:00.000+01:002008-02-05T15:45:00.000+01:00I agree with M.Benaut, specially because I think t...I agree with M.Benaut, specially because I think those living in the towers would not have a very good quality of life.<BR/>But I totally see what Guille is saying, on a daily basis, living far from the city can present some obstacles.<BR/><BR/>Don't know what the solution is. But there's no changing Paris skyline. No way. It's been like this for centuries and it shall remain so.Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08145947793541874607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-72139682859764806362008-02-05T15:33:00.000+01:002008-02-05T15:33:00.000+01:00OldManLincoln, the Chinese already moved in!!These...OldManLincoln, the Chinese already moved in!!<BR/>These towers, shot by Eric in the 13th arrondissement of Paris, are in the Chinese district of Paris!!Thibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03788623808410470446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-91763282999226851442008-02-05T15:32:00.000+01:002008-02-05T15:32:00.000+01:00OldManLincoln, the Chinese already moved in!!These...OldManLincoln, the Chinese already moved in!!<BR/>These towers, shot by Eric in the 13th arrondissement of Paris, are in the Chinese district of Paris!!Thibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03788623808410470446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-53670322383547624182008-02-05T15:19:00.000+01:002008-02-05T15:19:00.000+01:00The Chinese will buy them and many will move in. T...The Chinese will buy them and many will move in. They are also financing many governments of the world including our government. I think building up is much better than taking land away from Nature. Besides that, people are so much closer to the Heaven so many want to end up in. I am surprised.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-9026702342262675522008-02-05T13:42:00.000+01:002008-02-05T13:42:00.000+01:00Simple but effective photograph. Nice.Simple but effective photograph. Nice.Shutterspyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07933936629685995574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-54118700431582135422008-02-05T12:23:00.000+01:002008-02-05T12:23:00.000+01:00AnonymeOne of the greatest view, yes. But from suc...Anonyme<BR/>One of the greatest view, yes. But from such a horrible tower lol.<BR/><BR/>m.benaut <BR/>You are right, it's the better option.<BR/>But I commuted during 2 years between my parent's (in suburb) and my school in Paris, you can't imagine the time lost in the transports, trains always late, strikes etc. My commuting was around 3hours a day, sometimes more. And my parent's live not that far. My solution now? To live in Paris.<BR/> <BR/>So let's developping the transport please, to permit to people to live in suburb even if they work/study in Paris.guillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11367207273165799146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-14384025634068065252008-02-05T12:02:00.000+01:002008-02-05T12:02:00.000+01:00Ensuite que j'ai observé le vidéo certains de ces ...Ensuite que j'ai observé le vidéo certains de ces bâtiments ressembler aux meules de foin. Peut-être il serait meilleur marché de vivre dans la campagne et de prendre le train au bureau.<BR/>Paris devrait préserver son élément historique et romantique. C'est Paris que nous tous aimons.M.Benauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14644501811292368771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-78407606028715852872008-02-05T11:32:00.000+01:002008-02-05T11:32:00.000+01:00I don't particularly like towers and would probabl...I don't particularly like towers and would probably not like living in one of them BUT I remember once visiting an 11th floor appartment, which is already high for Paris, and telling to myself that the sight over Paris was not so bad at all. <BR/><BR/>So I think that when you are inside towers, it can be pretty nice but from the outside, it is usually never attracting ... (except Eiffel Tower of course, in which nobody lives BTW ...).<BR/><BR/>Guille, someone recently told me, the sight at the top of the Montparnasse tower is worthseeing... ;) <BR/><BR/>Have a nice day everyone, Co.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11471590.post-43702358928848660922008-02-05T11:20:00.000+01:002008-02-05T11:20:00.000+01:00What we need in Paris is... talented architects!I ...What we need in Paris is... talented architects!<BR/><BR/>I live in the 13eme were Eric took his picture, lucky enough not to see these dull housings nor to live in one<BR/><BR/>I think we can't go on pushing out of town people with a moderate or normal income who just can't afford anymore to live in Paris. <BR/>Renting or buying one's flat is really really expensive!<BR/><BR/>I know visitors like Paris as it is (so do I), but we can't just perform for tourists inside a museum-town, we need to leed a real life ;o)))<BR/>with local shops, housing, work and entertainment.<BR/><BR/>These towers, if any, would be built in places which are presently very ugly and scarcely seen by visitors. No one would want to pull down nice buildings to grow a tower insteadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com